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Factually! with Adam Conover

Technology and Race with Ruha Benjamin

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Princeton University professor Ruha Benjamin joins Adam to reveal the issues at play at the intersection of technology and race, her concept of the “New Jim Code", digital redlining and and how the technology can’t be relied on to solve what are ultimately social problems. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This is a HeadGum Podcast. I don't know what you think I don't know what you say

0:16.0

and that's all right

0:19.0

yeah that's all right

0:21.0

I don't know anything.

0:28.0

Hello everyone, welcome to Factually.

0:29.8

I'm Adam Conover, and for decades we've heard about how technology will change the world, right?

0:36.8

In the 90s, it truly seems that the internet and revolutionary, even utopian potential. We were all told and we believed that would break down the

0:46.1

barriers that separate people and information. We were told tech would fix all of

0:50.9

our problems. It would solve educational access with free, massively online

0:54.9

classes. It would eliminate discrimination because no one could tell who was who online, so we would

0:59.9

all compete on the merits. We even thought that tech would be strong enough to topple

1:04.9

dictatorships. Remember the Arab Spring? The media literally told us that

1:09.5

Twitter was going to be stronger than decades of authoritarianism from Tehran to Cairo.

1:15.0

And this was back when Twitter only had 120 characters.

1:18.0

Each of those characters was doing a lot of heavy lifting.

1:21.0

Well, suffice it to say, if you're living in the same present that I am,

1:25.4

none of these dreams has come true. A decade later, the Democratic gains of the Arab

1:30.8

Spring have largely rolled back and authoritarian governments have proved to be even

1:36.2

more adept at harnessing the communicative power of the internet than democratically minded citizens

1:40.8

are.

1:41.8

And in America, well let's just say our utopia of

1:45.6

technologically secured equality has not arrived yet. Let's start with a claim

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