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Joining us now, and it's always a pleasure to have Eric on.

It's been too long since we talked.

Eric Peters of Eric Petersotos.com.

A real soulmate when it comes to the issues of liberty and mobility, as these companies like to call it.

But, you know, it's really driving cars is what we think of.

We think of mobility.

I'm not looking at getting into some self-driving taxi, and I'm not looking at, I don't think

of that as mobility.

I think of mobility as being able to use a car to go where I want, when I want, and not

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