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🗓️ 25 May 2018
⏱️ 50 minutes
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0:00.0 | From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. |
0:04.2 | Brooke Gladstone is away this week. |
0:06.4 | I'm Bob Garfield. |
0:08.0 | We begin this week with a bulletin from the front lines of the war on truth. |
0:13.1 | The announcement from the president's new attorney, Rudolph Giuliani, |
0:17.0 | that President Trump may not submit to an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller. |
0:22.9 | He told the Washington Post he's worried the interview may not happen. |
0:25.4 | It could be a perjury trap, but that's the whole point, because he said, quote, |
0:28.6 | truth is relative. |
0:30.3 | Actually, some truth is objective. |
0:32.8 | It's called fact. |
0:34.8 | Despite a notorious White House claim to the contrary, there is no such thing as an alternate |
0:40.3 | fact. But Giuliani's invocation of relative truth may foreshadow the president's legal strategy |
0:47.2 | of undermining the legitimacy of the entire Mueller probe and of actual facts gleaned in the |
0:53.5 | investigation. |
0:54.8 | As Giuliani had explained on CNN a week ago, |
0:58.2 | sitting down with Mueller can only expose the president to danger. |
1:02.5 | Because you've got people that are going to ask him questions about, |
1:05.7 | what did you say to him, what did you say to him, |
1:06.9 | and you got Comey coming forward who will lie. |
1:09.1 | It's like Martha Stewart. |
1:11.1 | Martha Stewart never would have gone to jail if she hadn't gone and testified. |
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