You're listening to another great podcast in the MyMac Podcasting Network.

You're listening to another great podcast in the MyMac Podcasting Network. Hey there, Tech Fan listeners, it's Tech Fan podcast number 337. Tim is busy selling cars this week,

so I'm joined by Owen Rubin, one of our other occasional co-hosts. How are you doing,

Owen? Hey, David. Good to hear from you. Thank you for having me on again. It's been a while.

It has been, but I always know that we're going to get some interesting conversation

if I get you on. So when Tim said he wasn't going to be able to come on, I jumped to the chance

and was pleased I managed to grab you. I appreciate you getting up early and doing this because

you're eight hours behind me. It's the end of the day here and it's early in the day for you well it's 830 this is not bad a lot of times

you guys i think tim's wanted to do it at 7 in the morning and it's just i'm not a morning person

i just drag in the morning he does that he does that to accommodate me yes i know he does so um because

i knew that you were um not not not a fan of getting up quite so early early. I pushed it out to the end of the day.

I appreciate that. Thank you. That's no problem at all. And I suppose as Tim is working and his work pays his salary, which pays for all the hosting and management of the podcast network

I suppose we are indirectly sponsored by Toyota this week so thanks yeah I'm

wondering he's that he's busier I didn't notice if there's a new car that came

out from Toyota I'm waiting for them to update the Prius I I really want a new one, but oh my God, is that

current version ugly? Sorry, Tim.

It's just one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen,

inside and out.

I completely agree with you.

Now, we're both, well, I'm a former Prius owner.

You've still got yours?

A 2006,

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