You're listening to another great podcast in the Stoplight Network.

This is TechFam 165. This week we talk about Apple's seismic shift in software, and a I said, this is podcast number 165.

And remember, many Bothans died to bring you this episode.

I'm Tim Robertson, and he's David Cohen.

Hello, David.

Hello.

Start the show with the Star Wars reference.

I was thinking of that opening earlier, too.

I wonder how many people remember that from Star Wars, though.

I lot.

If they like...

Well, yeah, you'll get...

Maybe you can classify people by whether they get that reference or not in terms of how geeky they are.

Many Bawthens died to bringing this podcast.

I remember being sat there in the theatre in 77.

I was obviously only seven years old.

And thinking, why?

But did all the Boffens kind of line up?

Well, that didn't happen in 77 by the way that was

return of the Jedi so that was it yeah yeah I'm sure in the original one they talked about

how many people died to get them the original death plans death star plans but it was like

why just the boffins yeah you know, now that I say it,

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