Welcome to the Tech Check Plus live stream. I'm Pippa Stevens and I'm thrilled to be joined today by Jake Lucerarian. He is the co-founder and CEO at Gecko robotics.

Jake, welcome.

Thank you so much for being here.

Hey, thanks for having me on Pippa.

All right, so first of all, energy is one of, if not,

the most important theme over the last year with so much focus on the space.

So I know you just got back from Davos.

What kind of conversations were you having there on the ground. How does the energy space look to you

overall? It's a great way to start. A lot of the conversations at Davos were pretty

broad as related to energy crisis.

I talked, was on a panel with Christopher Ray, the director of the FBI, on a panel with the

first deputy prime minister of Ukraine about energy crisis in Ukraine, as well as Senator

Manchin talking about the Enflation Reduction Act.

So a broad range of topics around energy, and I actually wrote a piece about this as well.

Just a portion of positioning a fossil-based energy to a more school-based energy.

And the struggles of doing that,

not just in Western countries, but also

across many different kinds of countries.

And how difficult it is, an interesting stat that I'll tell you is

Goldman Sachs looked at the reliance on fossil fuels 10 years ago, 83% reliance on

fossil fuels for energy and then 3 10 years later,

ago, 80% reliance on fossil fuels for energy. And then 3.8 trillion dollars later, 10 years later,

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