TECH014: Is AGI Here? Clawdbot, Local AI Agent Swarms w/ Pablo Fernandez & Trey Sellers (Tech Podcast)

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Stig Brodersen

Business, Education, Investing

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🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Preston, Trey, and Pablo unpack the evolution of AI from agentic capabilities and decentralized systems to practical open-source tools like Clawdbot. They examine AI’s potential, security risks, personalized workflows, and its societal impact. With candid stories and real use cases, this episode offers a rare look into AI's current frontier and what lies ahead. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:06:11 - What agentic AI is and how it differs from traditional chatbots 00:07:27 - Why decentralization matters in AI development 00:10:06 - How open-source AI models like Clawdbot enable innovation 00:10:32 - How running AI locally differs from cloud-based models in security and control 00:11:19 - How persistent memory impacts AI behavior and risk 00:12:39 - Ways AI agents collaborate like teams in an organization 00:14:08 - The role of sovereignty and privacy in AI communications 00:15:42 - How Trey and Pablo initialize and manage specialized AI agents 00:17:15 - The risks of AI with access to personal data and how to mitigate them 00:23:09 - The potential of AI to innovate beyond human expectations Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Pablo on Nostr. Trey's newsletter and podcast: Fire BTC. Related ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠books⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠: HardBlock Human Rights Foundation Simple Mining Netsuite Shopify Plus500 Vanta Masterworks Fundrise⁠ References to any third-party products, services, or advertisers do not constitute endorsements, and The Investor’s Podcast Network is not responsible for any claims made by them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0	You're listening to TIP.
0:02.9	Hey everyone, welcome to this Wednesday's release of the Infinite Tech Podcast.
0:07.1	Oh my God, guys.
0:08.4	This week's episode is probably one of the most intellectually stimulating conversations
0:12.5	I've had in a very long time.
0:14.4	In the past couple weeks, open source AI has taken a whole new level of crazy with the
0:19.4	release of an open source project called
0:21.3	ClaudeBot, which was then renamed to OpenClaw because of a branding issue with Anthropics
0:26.6	Claude software.
0:28.0	So the conversation you're about to hear are with two close friends, Pablo Fernandez
0:32.1	and Trey Sellers, and they're currently running their own local AI agents and what this Wild Wild West is like.
0:40.3	I want to emphasize this point. This stuff we're talking about really requires an enormous
0:44.8	amount of skill to do it safely. Just because it sounds fun and interesting does not mean we are
0:50.0	encouraging anyone listening to this to go out and try this on their own. In fact, people
0:54.2	with the most skill in the space are even saying that they're concerned about the security
0:58.6	implications that this might have. So if you decide to do something like this, just be aware
1:03.1	of the enormous risks that it can pose if you don't understand network security and
1:08.2	AI in general. But with that, I hope you guys enjoyed this
1:11.8	conversation. It is an absolute wild one. You're listening to Infinite Tech by the Investors
1:21.2	Podcast Network, hosted by Preston Pish. We explore Bitcoin, AI, robotics, longevity and other exponential technologies through a lens of abundance and sound money.
1:33.3	Join us as we connect the breakthroughs shaping the next decade and beyond, empowering you to harness the future today.
1:40.3	This show is not investment advice. It's intended for informational and entertainment purposes only.
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