TECH003: Elon Musk's Tesla Robotaxi, Optimus, and more w/ Cern Basher (Tech Podcast)

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Stig Brodersen

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🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Cern Basher joins Preston Pysh to talk about robotaxi and robo-trucking economics, Optimus humanoid robots, and Wall Street’s short-term blind spots. Cern also unpacks Tesla’s Dojo shutdown, its true data moat, the macro impacts of autonomy and deflation, and why Bitcoin may be the ultimate corporate treasury hedge in this new era. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:02 - Why Tesla shut down Dojo and what that means 08:14 - How Tesla’s data advantage beats hardware competition 09:12 - Why Tesla’s future lies in AI and robotics, not just vehicles 12:49 - The deflationary effects of autonomy on labor and goods 20:55 - How investors can exploit Wall Street’s short-term bias 21:26 - How robotaxis could beat Uber’s per-mile costs by 10x 28:02 - Why robo-trucking may surpass robotaxis in profitability 40:00 - Why Bitcoin could hedge corporate treasuries in a new economy 42:09 - How Optimus robots could drive labor costs under $1/hour 45:42 - The economics of Robot-as-a-Service and Tesla’s potential moat BOOKS AND RESOURCES X Account: Cern Basher. Cern’s company: Brilliant Advice. Related books mentioned in the podcast. Ad-free episodes on our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠: Simple Mining HardBlock Human Rights Foundation Linkedin Talent Solutions Netsuite Shopify Vanta Abundant Mines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0	You're listening to TIP.
0:02.7	Hey everyone, welcome to this Wednesday's release of Infinite Tech.
0:06.5	Today, I'm joined by CERN Bashar, one of the smartest voices out there on Tesla, AI, robotics,
0:12.6	and the future of Bitcoin.
0:14.3	In this conversation, we dig into the big picture.
0:17.1	We talk about Tesla's further expansion from Carmaker into AI and Robotics Powerhouse,
0:23.3	the economics behind the robotaxie and robotrucking,
0:26.6	and why Optimist humanoid robots could reshape the cost of labor.
0:30.7	We also covered the rise and the shutdown of Dojo
0:34.0	and how automation-driven deflation ties back to Bitcoin as the ultimate treasury
0:39.0	asset.
0:40.0	This is surely an episode you will not want to miss, so without further ado, let's jump
0:44.0	into the show.
0:45.0	You're listening to Infinite Tech by the Investors Podcast Network, hosted by Preston
0:53.8	Pish.
0:54.7	We explore Bitcoin, AI, robotics, longevity, and other exponential technologies through a lens of
1:01.5	abundance and sound money. Join us as we connect the breakthroughs shaping the next decade
1:06.7	and beyond, empowering you to harness the future today. And now, here's your host, Preston Pish.
1:18.5	Hey, everyone, welcome to the show.
1:24.4	I am super pumped to have this conversation.
1:27.1	We're going to get into some really
1:28.3	fascinating stuff, folks. And no other than CERN Bashar here, he's the president and CIO at Brilliant
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