Wow, Audrey, it's Wednesday night.

I love Wednesdays.

We bring the smartest people on the TechVy radio.

And tonight's show, I think it's going to be really, really cool

because we're doing a double deep dive.

You know me, my double deep dives.

I like double stuff Oreos, and I like double deep dives on TechVive radio.

All right.

I don't want to talk about Oreos, but...

I might be a little crazy from this whole working at home thing,

but working at home, we're still bringing everybody to TechVive Radio via Zoom right now.

And we're having Lisa Slate and stop by tonight for a double deep dive.

Can you talk a little bit about Lisa?

I know Lisa.

Lisa has had many, many years in nonprofit leadership and private sector work.

And she has found, you know, this time in her life for her to work on real

leadership issues in terms of complexity and coaching. But that probably oversimplifies what

the work that she does. But what's so fascinating is in this time of potentially a deep

recession and the COVID pandemic is that everyone's, you know,

finding themselves in trying to understand what the new world is. And Lisa brings a lot of solid

guidance in terms of chaos, in terms of shifts, in terms of values. And we're going to talk to her about it.

And the time that we're with, there probably won't be enough,

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