Tech Unions, Color Perception, Fish Vs Birds. Feb 19, 2021, Part 2
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🗓️ 19 February 2021
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| 0:00.0 | This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. Here at SciFry, you know, we love a good debate. |
| 0:05.2 | We've pitted Mars versus Venus, Clash Dolphins versus Bat Sonar. And now there's some new contenders. |
| 0:12.9 | Here's SciFri producer Katie Feather, telling us more about it. Hi, Katie. |
| 0:17.3 | Hey, Ira. Are you ready for another Smackdown? I am ready to rumble. How do you feel about |
| 0:23.7 | birds versus fish? Well, it depends on the wine you're serving. Oh, oh, you mean in a fight. |
| 0:32.1 | Yeah. Yeah, it's usually the birds getting the better of the fish, right? Like the fish are typically the prey, |
| 0:38.2 | the birds are the predators. Yeah, that's how it goes. But Karina Newsom, a bird researcher and |
| 0:43.3 | community manager for Georgia Audubon, captured the first ever instance of a fish predating a |
| 0:49.4 | bird's nest. No, how does a fish get into a bird's nest? Right? |
| 0:54.4 | Well, this is where things get a little sad because these birds, Karina, is studying seaside sparrows. |
| 1:00.3 | They make their nests in these three-foot-tall marsh grasses. |
| 1:03.6 | And with climate change, their nests are getting flooded. |
| 1:07.3 | I see. |
| 1:08.2 | So the tide comes in, the nests are underwater now, and that sets the stage for the |
| 1:13.1 | fish versus bird showdown. Right. And she captured all this on video. Hmm, if you ask me, |
| 1:21.8 | that was kind of lucky. Right? That's what I wanted to ask her first. How did she happen to have a camera aimed at a nest at the exact right moment? |
| 1:30.5 | So as part of my research for my master's degree, I'm studying nest predation in the seaside sparrow. |
| 1:36.7 | I was actually focusing on mammalian nest predators like raccoons and American mink and rice rats. |
| 1:42.7 | But the nature of having a camera on a nest is that |
| 1:45.4 | you see anything that goes on behind the scenes of marsh life. And then one night, there was a |
| 1:50.5 | nest flooding event where a fish jumped into the nest, was definitely not expecting that |
| 1:54.8 | observation, but it happened to happen while I was looking for mammalian predators. |
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