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I'm your host Matt Trumpets, and this episode is called Curiosity, Killed the Copycats.

And I'm joined today by the Hardest Working Man in Tech F1, Matthew Sommerfield,

assistant technical editor at motorsport.com, the man with a plan from techie stand and

known to all the cool kids on to enter tubes as summers F1

summers it is so good to have you back on the show with us.

It's very good to be on the show with you again, Matt, to be honest.

Well, you must have been fairly busy at your full-time position staring at the tiny details on high-resolution photographs of car parts and I'm sure you've got a lot to tell us now I've noticed and I can understand why that there's been a bit as we say of a focus on Ferrari because they were, well, you know, a walking catastrophe wrapped in a disaster.

And I think everybody is kind of wondering exactly

how they're getting on at this point.

And you've written some kind of interesting articles

about what they're up to.

So what is it that they've been doing?

And I think importantly, do you think that,

I mean have the last couple of raises just,

is it a false hope, is it a false dawn

that we're seeing at Ferrari? Or do you think that maybe they're onto something?

Well, there's a lot going on at Ferrari. That's the top and bottom of it because they have a lot to catch up on as we know.

They are or have been quite a way off because of what happened to them

last year in terms of the power unit and then that obviously had a massive effect on their chassis and

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