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Tech's Polarizing “996” Work Life & The “Low-Hire, Low-Fire” Job Market

Morning Brew Daily

Morning Brew

Business News, News, Business

4.43K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Episode 690: Neal and Toby chat with Kaila and Kyle from ‘Per My Last Email’ to dive into the latest workplace trends making headlines. Is the hardcore ‘996’ work culture necessary for a person’s career? Why AI ‘workslop’ is dragging productivity down and how to properly utilize AI to standout from the rest. Also, the stagnant job market has been described as ‘low-hire, low-fire’, which puts young grads and out-of-work mid-career professionals in a tough spot. Kaila and Kyle have some tips on how to navigate it. Finally, is workplace loyalty dead? Get your paper tablet at https://www.remarkable.com today Get more of Kyle and Kaila on Per My Last Email! Spotify link: https://open.spotify.com/show/0nLoZjMIpr7AhG61xsZlWs?si=83e893071dd44696  YT link: https://youtube.com/@permylastemailshow?si=aMa5d8vjKlFdeZlb  Show page: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/   Get your MBD live show tickets here! https://www.tinyurl.com/MBD-HOLIDAY  Join us for October trivia night! https://mbd-trivianight-oct2025.splashthat.com/  Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.swap.fm/l/mbd-note⁠⁠⁠ Watch Morning Brew Daily Here:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:26.3

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0:31.7

Head to contentful.com slash Black Friday.

0:34.7

That's contentful.com slash Black Friday.

0:40.6

Good. slash black Friday. That's contentful.com slash black Friday. Good morning brew daily show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today is the grind set back.

0:47.4

And where has workplace loyalty gone? On a special episode, we chat with Morning Brew's resident

0:52.8

workplace experts. It's Monday, October 13th.

0:56.1

Let's ride. I really hope you all remember to turn off your Monday through Friday alarm,

1:07.2

because today is Indigenous People's Day and Columbus Day in the United States,

1:11.1

meaning most of you are getting the day off of work. We did, kind of, but still have an awesome

1:16.3

special episode out this morning. We're talking everything, work and jobs with Kayla and

1:21.0

Kyle from the Brews Per My Last Email Podcast. We dug into some of the biggest storylines

1:26.1

dominating the labor market right now. How many

1:28.3

hours should you be working? Is the labor market frozen? If it is frozen, what does that mean

1:32.5

if you do or don't have a job? All the stuff that Neil and I briefly touch on during MBD shows,

1:38.2

but don't get to do a deep dive on. That's what this episode is for. But first, a word from our sponsor, Remarkable.

1:46.5

Neil, are you writing in a notebook right now?

1:49.2

Yes.

1:50.0

Ugh, yuck, gross.

1:51.5

It's like I'm sitting next to a caveman.

1:53.2

You got to get the Remarkable Paper Pro.

1:55.6

It's the third generation paper tablet from Remarkable.

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