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Today, the scam of the week, well, what you need to know about a new fishing scam that involves

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Commando. Well, the big news is out this week about the drug dealers and the app that trick them. But it wasn't

really an anonymous chat app that works on a standard smartphone. Like all the news outlets are saying

it is, I did some research. I went down to that Ali Seligman rabbit hole. Welcome. Happy to have you.

It's like, oh no, I'm down for somebody get me out of this.

Well, I'm going to get to all that in a sec.

So here's the deal.

You may have heard FBI agents here in the U.S., similar crime fighting organizations around the world.

They were so smart.

They duped all these suspected criminals by tapping into their super secret conversations

and how they did it was interesting.

Now, there are things called hardened encrypted devices. Have you ever heard of this?

No. Not that term, no. No. Hardin encrypted devices. Now, I didn't know about it either,

but I went down that rabbit hole. So you can't buy one on Amazon or your local phone

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