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🗓️ 18 December 2024
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0:31.7 | Hello, and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neil Appetal, editor-in-chief of The Verge, and Decoder |
0:35.1 | is my show about big ideas and other problems. |
0:43.0 | Today, we're talking about antitrust and tech, which is at a particularly weird moment as we enter the second Trump administration. A lot of tech policy is at a weird moment, actually, but |
0:47.1 | antitrust might be the weirdest part of it all. The pendulum on antitrust has swung back and |
0:51.6 | forth pretty wildly over the past few years, and and well, it's about to swing again under Trump and his new appointees. |
0:57.9 | Tell me getting a sense of these folks and what might be about to happen, I asked Leon Nylen, |
1:02.6 | an antitrust reporter for Bloomberg News and one of the leading experts on the subject, |
1:06.3 | to come on the show and help me break it all down. |
1:08.9 | Now, if you're a decoder listener, you know that the basic frameworks of how antitrust law in the United States work have been more or less |
1:14.7 | the same since Ronald Reagan took office in 1980, all the way through the Obama presidency and |
1:19.9 | the First Trump administration. But under President Biden, Federal Trade Commission Chair |
1:24.2 | Lena Khan and Department of Justice antitrust chief Jonathan Cantor |
1:27.7 | have taken a bold approach to antitrust that many of us have not really seen in our lifetimes. |
1:32.9 | And they've been pretty public about it. Cantor has been on Decoder twice in the past year |
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