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When abuse is done by a pastor, it becomes spiritual abuse the way all abuse is, but then it

also means that God has been dragged into it, and he is on the side of the abuser. I really

don't have words for the kind of damage that that does to us all.

When a small group of us started, what would become Mars Hill in 1996? We could not have

dreamed it would be what it is today.

You know, I was in the blogosphere for 10 years, and I knew for a fact that my numbers shot

through the roof whenever I blogged about Rob Bell or Mark Driscoll.

There's a few guys, but if I wasn't going to end up on CNN, I would go all testament

on them. There's very real chronic trauma that comes from serving within systems like

this.

Why does this story play out in other churches? Why are we not looking at the deep-seated

reasons for this?

Nothing will change some of the amazing things that happen to Mars Hill, and nothing can

change the pain and hurt and devastation, but also people that experience the Mars Hill.

The rise and fall of Mars Hill. Subscribe today wherever you get your podcasts.