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It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. One of the problems with the reaction to the Oklahoma City bombing, and it's a good example to bring up, is that it was widely

understood as the act of one lone madman, Timothy McBae, and he had to accomplices.

This downplayed the extent to which he was part of a much broader white

nationalist underground. And if you don't recognize that there are other groups that are helping him or helping

splendor.

We won't go to that.

There's a kind of wider conspiracy theory that there was no other groups involved beyond McVeigh.

The point I try to make is rather that there's a broader culture of many people. The federal agencies were extremely effective, if you look at the the federal agencies were extremely effective.

If you look at the 1970s of infiltrating the clan and putting a stop to the

clan they've been very successful in placing the informers inside white

supremacist groups but it's critical if you're able to do that that you have

political support to act on that within the administration itself. So what's

happened in the last four years is that there's been very little support for doing that, right?

So in fact, we've had time, time again reports which says, look,

domestic white supremacist extremists are the most dangerous threat to the United States, much more than overseas terrorists.

And those reports have been downplayed, they've been ignored, they've been told this is not true, this is a slur on American

patriots.

So for example, again, people seem shocked that there are members of the United States Armed Forces or law enforcement

agencies who hold white supremacist views.

Anybody who's been paying attention, this has been clear, they've been infiltrating law enforcement, armed forces

have been a goal of white supremacist movement for decades. The FBI knows

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