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To do what is necessary would completely undermine this historical necessary division between the deserving and undeserving poor.

That I think very simply speaks to the contradiction at the heart of psychiatry, which is tasked with, on the one hand,

this belief or historical mission that it's set for itself of emancipating people and this other side where madness stands in a concrete material relationship with labor in general and with

the other kind of outcasts of labor. So at that point of contradiction,

there's a choice that people have to make. Either continue doing what you know is not going to work,

or take a kind of radical action and fight. I'm. I'm.

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Sasha Warren to talk about his book called Storming Bedlam, Madness, Utopia, and Revolt that

just came out last month from Common Notions Press. Sasha is a writer and independent researcher who

focuses on the history of psychiatry and madness. He co-founded the Minnesota chapters of the

Hearing Voices Network and the International Society for Psychological and Social Approaches to Psychosis.

We met online years ago now and share a mutual affinity for studying patient publications and zines

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