TEASER: 'Shade of Trespass' with Garnette Cadogan
The War on Cars
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4.9 • 937 Ratings
🗓️ 30 August 2022
⏱️ 4 minutes
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We talked with essayist Garnette Cadogan, currently the Tunney Lee Distinguished Lecturer in Urbanism at MIT, about his essay "Walking While Black." Some of that conversation was featured in Episode 83, "The Pedestrian," inspired by the classic Ray Bradbury story of the same name. In an extended edit of our full talk, Garnette talks about how walking in the United States as a Black man forced him to radically recalibrate his mindset as he moved along the street, dismantling his innocent pleasure in wandering. He talks about fearing the police, who so often assume that he is the one at fault in any situation. But the most insidious and poisonous thing he encounters is the way that white people in American cities so often fear him, just because of the color of his skin—a color too often judged, as he says, to be "the shade of trespass."
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| 0:00.0 | This is Sarah Goodyear. |
| 0:03.0 | I'm here with a little taste. This is Sarah Goodyear. |
| 0:13.0 | I'm here with a little taste of a bonus episode we're releasing to our Patreon supporters. |
| 0:18.0 | It's an interview with the essayist Garnett Cadigan, who is currently the Tunny lead distinguished lecturer in urbanism at MIT. |
| 0:26.4 | I talked with Garnet back when I was working on an episode on the Ray Bradbury Short |
| 0:30.8 | Story, The Pedestrian. |
| 0:32.6 | I had found Garnett, who grew up in Kingston, Jamaica, |
| 0:35.7 | through a piece he published about his experiences |
| 0:38.6 | walking the streets of American cities as a black man, |
| 0:41.9 | under the title Walking While Black. |
| 0:44.0 | Garnet and I had a rich and complicated conversation. |
| 0:48.0 | I was only able to include a little bit of that exchange in the pedestrian |
| 0:52.0 | episode which came out last March. |
| 0:54.6 | So this week we're sharing an extended edit of the talk I had with Garnett exclusively |
| 0:59.7 | with our Patreon sponsors. |
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