Teaser - Osterity w/ Abby Cartus (03/22/21)
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🗓️ 23 March 2021
⏱️ 4 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Yeah. You know, like, you should, if you are not expecting pushback and critique and blowback, |
| 0:07.1 | then, like, maybe you're not really prepared to, like, step into, you know, an advocacy role. |
| 0:13.9 | And, like, yeah, like Phil was saying, there's kind of this, like, shell game of like, |
| 0:17.8 | oh, well, am I, you know, did I say this as a researcher or did I say this as an advocate? Because, you know, like, I think that like different standards should apply to me. Like, and, you know, I think that somewhat different standards should apply, but like, yeah, it's, it's pretty clear when you're doing advocacy versus when you're doing, you know, like I was just doing like laboriously and very dryly, like trying to break down like |
| 0:39.5 | a methodological critique of scientific work or something. But it's all connected. I mean, |
| 0:44.7 | because it's like what is going on in the Atlantic piece that that Emily Oster actually wrote, |
| 0:49.2 | right? Is that especially like this has a lot of contacts with our discussion from the episode |
| 0:54.0 | on Thursday, |
| 0:54.7 | our main feed episode where we talked about how some patients with solid organ transplants |
| 0:59.0 | aren't having a blunted response to the vaccines and are not necessarily developing |
| 1:04.6 | antibodies at the rate that other people are. Right. So Emily Oster even acknowledged |
| 1:10.6 | this in one of the mommy blogger podcast |
| 1:13.4 | interviews that I listened to her in where she said basically like, yeah, so, you know, I think |
| 1:18.2 | things can really go back to normal for families. They don't have to be stuck inside because, you know, |
| 1:23.9 | kids aren't able to be vaccinated yet while the childless families are out |
| 1:29.0 | picnicking and celebrating Fourth of July, you know, except for those families, you know, |
| 1:34.3 | that are like immune compromised or whatever, right? Like, she's not only saying in her like |
| 1:39.4 | three to six foot advocacy work that some people are disposable, namely teachers, and that it doesn't |
| 1:48.0 | really matter if children are exposed to a virus that we don't really understand for no good |
| 1:52.2 | reason. |
| 1:53.0 | She's also saying that, like, that, you know, families that have sick people in them don't |
| 1:59.1 | matter as much as families that don't |
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