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You said they made fun of him.

These guys get the joke, right? They understand how strange and how off Trump is. Is that what you're telling me?

Oh, everybody. Except for maybe Don Jr.

Everybody would be even really. It was not off-limits to anybody.

As long as he wasn't around or Jr. wasn't around, it was freely. He was last dad.

Depending on what happened and disagreed. Most of the time they all disagreed with him.

But nobody had, it was funny to watch how nobody had the strength to go up against him.

We had the balls to stand up to him.

They made fun of him for what? Exactly. I mean, there was a lot of choices, but just curious.

If you give me a time period, I'll tell you what.

I mean, I wasn't for his bad decision making or his...

It was his bad the way he would talk, the way he was bad decision making, the stubbornness that he would go into.

I remember with Charlotte Sveld, for instance, when he came out and said there were people on both sides.

I thought after Arnsey was going to fall off the head. The Trump stuff like that.

He'd make a statement and then it wouldn't be just them.

Like I said, it was just also donors. You go to a Trump event.

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