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I'm Beatrice Suther Bolton and today I'm joined by our guest Sarah Jaffe.

Sarah is a writer and labor journalist.

She is the author of the books, Work Won't Love You Back in Necessary Trouble and also has a

new podcast project called Heart React.

That's an advice show about

navigating amongst collapse and late capitalism. And she's here today to talk about her

brand new book called From the Ashes, Grief and Revolution in a World on Fire, which was just

published by Bold Type Books. Welcome to the death panel, Sarah. It is so nice to finally have

you on the show.

Hi. I'm so happy to be here. Now, thank you so much for coming on today. I'm so glad that we're

talking about this book, which in some ways is a bit of a departure from your previous books,

and in some ways isn't at all. It's very personal. And a book that is about grief and mourning kind of

has to be personal in a lot of ways. You talk a lot about your own experiences of grief and the

experiences of so many others exploring both personal grief, individual grief, and collective grief

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