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Death Panel underscore. I'm Beatrice Souther Bolton and today I'm really excited to be joined by

two guests, China Mills and John Pring, to talk about the deaths by welfare project,

which tracks the brutal welfare system in the United Kingdom and how it kills people.

First, we have China.

China Mills is the head of research at Healing Justice London, lead of the Deaths

by Welfare Project, and is part of the Stigma Free Futures design team at the Joseph

Roundtree Foundation.

She has been published widely and is the author of the 2014 book Decolonizing Global Mental

Health, which is part of the Routledge Concepts for Critical

Psychology series. China, welcome to the death panel. Thank you so much. It's such a pleasure to be

here. Such a pleasure to have you. And next we have John. John Prang is founder and editor of the news agency

Disability News Service, co-creator of the Deaths by Welfare Timeline,

and co-editor and specialist advisor on the Museum of Austerity Project.

He's also the author of several books, including his latest, just published by Pluto,

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