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Hi there, this is Mike Warren, senior editor at The Dispatch.

You're going to be listening to a sneak preview of Dispatch Live, a segment from earlier where we talked with John

Aziz, a British Palestinian writer, about the situation in the Middle East.

You can listen to the whole conversation,

but you've got to join the skiff over at the dispatch.com.

The instructions are below to find out how to become a full member. The conversation. Well, that's the abyss, right, that we are all sort of staring in, which is what you're talking about a sort of peace movement among

Palestinians seems I can't think of something if you look at the conditions or the polling that you

describe in the peace nothing could seem more remote in terms of

likelihood at this point maybe from certainly where we stand in the west, then that.

Why should there be hope in the world for not just a peace movement within among

Palestinians but one that can take hold and actually change hearts and minds.

I think if you look at the situation in Gaza today right where there's so many

people displaced so many people have died you know access to basic amenities

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