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Welcome to the librarianrarian is In.

The New York Public Libraries podcast about books, culture, and what to read next.

I'm Gwen Glazer from the Reader Services Unit here at the library.

And I'm Frank Calerius, the library manager of the Jefferson Market Library.

And later, we are going to be joined by one of Frank's Budds, Jennifer Kraft, who's going to talk to us about creating more space in our lives to read, part of a sort of post-New Year's resolution kind of thing.

Yeah, she's the library manager of the Mulberry Street Library.

Which is in Soho.

It's behind the puck building, a block down from Houston on Mulberry in Jersey. It's gorgeous. It's got its own thing. Plus, actually, she could possibly tell a David Bowie's story. There's a connection there, but I'll leave it to Jennifer. Oh, that's exciting. Okay, cool. Great. So let's get right into it. Let's do hi frank hi how are you doing i'm not that good really

why aren't you that good i don't know i had a nightmare last night i actually did really i haven't

had a nightmare about the library well it's library related i know when people start saying i had a dream

i want to tell you about it the other person's like tell me but inside they're like bored to death. No, it's like, I haven't had a library. It was weird. I think just because I felt nervous about today for some reason. I'm just anxious like, we got, eh. But it was just that, first of all, you should know, in the library, frontline librarians have this nightmare, are literal, about not being able to, having to close the library, but not being able to get people out.

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So it's as anxiety. nightmare, literal, about not being able to, having to close the library, but not being able to

get people out. So it's this anxiety dream of like, no one's leaving and there's more and more people coming in, they have to close. And I've never had that anxiety. And I always thought I was better than everybody because I was like, I don't care. I'm not nervous about people. I want them to come in, not have to get them out. Haven't you had to do that? And I was so superior. And then last

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