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🗓️ 7 December 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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The escalating drug boat strikes in the Caribbean, a bold Trump administration initiative targeting narco-terrorist operations linked to Venezuela. The hosts analyze reports alleging a controversial “double-tap” strike on a vessel, sparking accusations of potential war crimes. They break down the legal and ethical implications under the Law of Armed Conflict, debate media narratives, and highlight Democrats’ efforts to use this story to politically damage Secretary of War Pete Hegseth. Clay offers a lawyer’s perspective on whether follow-up strikes were lawful, while Buck compares this situation to past drone strike controversies under previous administrations.
Adding to the tension, the show covers Trump’s ultimatum to Nicolás Maduro, giving the Venezuelan leader until Friday to vacate power or face possible U.S. action. The hosts weigh the pros and cons of regime change, its historical pitfalls, and its strategic significance given Venezuela’s vast oil reserves. They invite Venezuelan-American listeners to share their views on intervention and democracy restoration.
High-stakes political drama and breaking news as the Venezuelan drug boat strike controversy dominates headlines. The hour opens with updates from President Trump’s marathon cabinet meeting, which lasted over two hours and was broadcast live on major networks. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth addressed the September 2 strike on a narco-terrorist vessel, defending the decision to “eliminate the threat” and dismantle cartel operations responsible for flooding the U.S. with fentanyl. Hegseth blasted the Washington Post for publishing what he called “fake stories” about alleged kill orders, stressing the reality of the fog of war and reaffirming that commanders acted lawfully under the Law of Armed Conflict. Clay and Buck analyze the legal and strategic implications, warning that Democrats and the media are using this narrative to delegitimize Hegseth and weaken Trump’s foreign policy as part of a broader impeachment strategy.
The discussion expands to Venezuela, raising questions about whether Maduro’s removal signals a deeper U.S. commitment to regime change and intervention. Clay and Buck emphasize Trump’s aggressive stance against narco-terrorists as a national security imperative, contrasting deterrence with appeasement. They argue that clear, consistent messaging from the administration could neutralize the controversy and prevent political fallout. Listener calls add fiery energy to the hour, with viral moments like Linda’s blunt declaration—“When in doubt, take ’em out”—sparking debate over rules of engagement and ethics in warfare. Other callers draw parallels to historic military actions, from the Bin Laden raid to naval confrontations with Iran, fueling a lively discussion on legality, morality, and public perception.
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| 0:33.7 | These strikes on, these lethal strikes on narco-terrorist boats in the Caribbean. |
| 0:40.7 | Secretary of War Heggseth addressed this just a moment ago. |
| 0:44.8 | We wanted to let you hear from him what's going on. |
| 0:47.5 | Play 33. |
| 0:48.2 | And then it's getting after and going after narco-terrorists |
| 0:50.5 | and designated terrorist organizations in our own hemisphere. |
| 0:55.0 | As I've said, and I'll say again, we've only just begun striking narco boats and putting |
| 1:02.0 | narco terrorists at the bottom of the ocean because they've been poisoning the American people. |
| 1:07.0 | And Joe Biden tried to approach it with kid gloves. |
| 1:10.0 | And allowed them to come across the border, cartels takeover community, 20 million people, And Joe Biden tried to approach it with kid gloves. |
| 1:12.1 | And allowed them to come across the border. |
| 1:17.2 | Cartels takeover community, 20 million people, hundreds of thousands of Americans poisoned. |
| 1:20.1 | And President Trump said, no, we're taking the gloves off. |
| 1:22.9 | We're taking the fight to these designated terror organizations. |
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