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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the Busy Mom Podcast. I am in the studio

of the podcast. I'm going to be listening to this. I love you, man. I don't know how, and

we made it out of the closet, but we did. I am here today with my friend Rachel Carmen.

She's visiting me in the great state of Washington from the great state of North Carolina.

That's right. Yes. And with your cute little southern accent, I'm sure to be talking

with the southern accent before this is over. My kids are always like, you can't do that,

mom. Represent your from Portland. I'll try not to contaminate you. I love you.

You know what's funny? I'm an auditory learner. And so I will all listen to something, and

I just absorb it. Whatever it is. When I was visiting the UP, I was talking like I was

from the UP. And my family was like, what is wrong with you? Knock it off, mom. Knock it off,

mom. You're from boring. People from boring are just boring when they don't have any accent.

Anyway, Rachel has written several books, and the one that we've been talking about the

last couple of days is her newest one's called How Many Times So I Have to Tell You. If you

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