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The Brian Lehrer Show

Teaching History in This Fraught Time

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Arts, Lerer, Radio, York, Wnyc, News, Media, New, Npr, Nyc, Bryan, News Commentary, Politics, Daily News, Public

4.71.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Annie Polland and Clint Smith discuss the Tenement Museum’s summer program to help teachers teach Black and immigrant history.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lair Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. I'm Bridget Bergen, senior reporter in the WNYC and Gothamist Newsroom sitting in for Brian this week.

0:25.8

This week, the Tenement Museum is hosting a group of teachers from across the country for a workshop and how to teach black and immigrant history, now when American history is disputed

0:32.2

territory. To hear more about their approach to history and what they're hearing from the teachers,

0:38.1

we're joined by Annie Pollan, historian and president of the Tenement Museum,

0:43.0

and by poet and author, Clint Smith, who's leading one of the sessions.

0:47.9

You may know his book, how the word is past, remembering slavery and how it shaped America.

0:52.6

A new edition for young readers comes out this fall.

0:56.7

Welcome back to the show, Annie and Clint.

0:59.0

Thank you. Good morning.

1:00.5

Thank you.

1:01.5

Annie, maybe you can start by telling listeners

1:04.7

who might not have visited the Tenant Museum about

1:07.3

its really unique way of opening the door

1:10.0

to ordinary New Yorkers' lives throughout history. Yeah, so we're a really unique way of opening the door to ordinary New Yorkers lives

1:11.9

throughout history. Yeah, so we're a really unique place and a really special place.

1:16.6

And we are a tenement, actually two tenements on Orchard Street in New York on the Lower East

1:23.6

Side. And what we've done over the years, and the museum was founded in 1988,

1:28.9

and what we've done is research the stories of people who lived in those tenements. And there's

1:33.6

one exception. There's a story of a family that lived actually a few blocks away from where we are,

1:38.5

but also in tenements, to be able to tell the stories of immigrants, migrants, migrants, and

1:43.3

refugees, how they came to the city, how they

1:45.5

created homes. And we teach that history through educator-led tour. So educators lead people

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