Teacher Shot By 6-Year-Old Student Testifies: “He Seemed To Be Off and in a Violent Mood”
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🗓️ 20 May 2026
⏱️ 19 minutes
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In a first of its kind trial, a school administrator is being held criminally responsible for her inaction the day a 6-year-old student shot his teacher with a handgun he brought to school. Former assistant principal Dr. Ebony Parker is facing significant prison time if convicted of 8 counts of felony child abuse. Teacher Abby Zwerner, who survived being shot in the chest, was the first to testify, saying she notified Parker and other teachers that the boy seemed suspicious and violent several times on the day of the shooting.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:05.9 | Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, May 20th, and a historic trial is taking place. |
| 0:12.4 | A school administrator, the first known case of a school principal being held criminally responsible for a school shooting that a student did at her school. |
| 0:24.7 | And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. The case itself was obviously |
| 0:29.3 | Roeb's stunning because this had to do with a six-year-old. But now the assistant principal |
| 0:33.5 | is in court facing criminal charges. The trial is underway. Roeb is historic. And before we get |
| 0:41.1 | into the details, it was kind of annoying. And what I mean by that, Rose, this, we watch a lot of |
| 0:45.8 | trials. It was the interruptions and the starting and the stopping. It seemed like nobody knew |
| 0:51.2 | what they were doing. And I'm not sure what they were doing. I can't even imagine being a juror on this trial because it was hard to follow. |
| 0:59.1 | The state, the prosecution started out with a bang. |
| 1:02.7 | They brought their first witness to the stand, and yes, it was the very teacher who was shot in the chest by that six-year-old. |
| 1:10.3 | But as they started to do some direct |
| 1:14.0 | questioning to her, the defense attorney for Dr. Ebony Parker, the assistant principal, just |
| 1:20.7 | kept constantly objecting, objecting, interrupting, objecting, and just seemed befuddled in general. |
| 1:28.8 | Yeah, I couldn't tell if it was brilliant legal strategy or he was incompetent. And that's because |
| 1:33.5 | I'm not a lawyer. But as far as, I thought for a while, he was just trying to throw the other |
| 1:40.1 | guy off, like making sure he couldn't even get into a flow of questions or even tell a story. |
| 1:45.1 | It was something like I had never seen, and the question or the objection was always the same. It had to do with hearsay. Hearsay. He can't do that. That's hearsay. And then when he got up to cross-examination, we'll get into that in a second. Anyway, I just wanted to say, we had a tough time at the beginning of this. It's like this whole trial going to go this way? |
| 2:01.6 | We kept looking at each other going, this can't continue. |
| 2:04.6 | It's going to go this way? We kept looking at each other going, this can't continue. |
| 2:04.2 | It's going to end. It did it. In fact, the opening statements were pretty quick as far as opening |
| 2:12.7 | statements go. Sweetheart, this thing is flying by. Right? We have seen opening statements take |
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