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Longtime friend of the show, Tim Sandifer, Tim, the lawyer, who is a big wheel these days at the Goldwater Institute.

We'll talk about that in a minute, also an adjunct scholar with the Cato Institute, among other things,

and the author of a number of fine books, which I recommend heartily, one and all,

including a brand new book, Proclaiming Liberty, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and the Declaration of Independence.

Can't wait to read it. Tim, Santerford, joins us now. Tim, how are you?

I'm just great. Been too long. Yeah, it really has been. I hope you and your beautiful, brilliant, brighter, both

doing well. I'm looking at what you wrote about your new book, proclaiming liberty,

and you describe it as a biography of the Declaration of Independence. I love that. What do you mean?

Well, I tried to tell the story of the Declaration of Independence in order to

cover the legal and philosophical background of the declaration, but to tell it in sort of a story

format about the friendship between Thomas Jefferson and John Adams and the issues that they were

facing in 1776. So I wanted to make it not just a boring recitation

of philosophical or legal issues, but to try and tell it in the context of all the controversies

that were going on at the time, which I think a lot of people don't know about. I mean, I think

today people read the Declaration of Independence, and they get through the long list of complaints

about what Britain was doing,

and they don't really know what those things are all referring to. And so I wanted to go clause by

clause through the Declaration and say exactly what it was that Parliament was doing, that bothered

the Americans, and how that connected to the lives of the people who wrote the Declaration.

Yeah, two points. Number one, I have always been inspired by, for instance, Adams and Jefferson.

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