Tchau, Bolsonaro? What to Make of Brazil's Election Results with Brian Winter
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🗓️ 4 November 2022
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
On October 30, Brazilians elected Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva as their next president. Within minutes, world leaders, including President Biden and Secretary Blinken, offered official congratulations. For Lulu supporters, the atmosphere was celebratory but tense, as many wondered if Lulu's opponent, incumbent Jair Bolsonaro—who once said the election would end either in his death, arrest, or victory—would accept the legitimate results of the election.
To talk through that election and its aftermath, Lawfare managing editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Brian Winter, editor in chief of Americas Quarterly and a journalist with over a decade living and reporting across Latin America. They discussed whether warnings of an election crisis were alarmist or not, what's next for Bolsonaro and his movement, and what to watch for during Lulu's first 100 days.
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| 0:29.0 | The prevailing truth was tension. |
| 0:39.0 | Gosh, it was tense. Very polarized country. |
| 0:43.0 | And where the possibility of violence around the election, |
| 0:47.0 | the possibility of a Brazilian version of January 6th was always hanging heavy in the air. |
| 0:55.0 | In fact, even as we record this, the threat has not totally passed. |
| 0:59.0 | There are still dozens of roadblocks set up around the country by pro-Bolson-R.O. protesters |
| 1:05.0 | who are essentially unhappy over the result and either trying to express their displeasure |
| 1:11.0 | or in some cases produce enough instability that in their minds the military |
| 1:17.0 | might feel tempted to intervene and take over the country in order to support |
| 1:23.0 | Bolsonaro and prevent Lula from taking office. |
| 1:27.0 | I'm Tyler McBrion, managing editor of LawFair, |
| 1:31.0 | and this is the LawFair podcast, November 4th, 2022. |
| 1:35.0 | On October 30th, Brazilian-selected Louise Ignacio Lula de Silva as their next president. |
| 1:39.0 | Within minutes, world leaders including President Biden and Secretary Blinken |
| 1:43.0 | offered official congratulations. For Lula supporters, |
| 1:47.0 | the atmosphere was celebratory but tense, as many wondered if Lula's opponent |
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