TCF Ep. 659 - Jeffery Saddoris & Ibarionex Perello

The Candid Frame: Conversations on Photography

Ibarionex R. Perello

Arts, Visual Arts

4.8 • 768 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

A year after the Eaton Fire in Altadena upended our lives, I found myself sitting down with photographer, writer, and educator Jeffery Saddoris for a conversation that was less about photography and more about what happens when life forces you to reconsider where—and how—you want to live. Recorded in February, just before our move to Bordeaux, France, this episode reflects on the long emotional aftermath of loss, displacement, and uncertainty, as well as the difficult decisions that followed in the wake of the fire. What emerged from our conversation was not simply a discussion about relocation or starting over abroad. It became an honest reflection on identity, community, work, and the search for stability after a period of profound disruption. We talk about the realities of rebuilding, the emotional weight of leaving Southern California, and the hope that comes with embracing change, even when it arrives unexpectedly. For those who have experienced upheaval in their own lives, this conversation may feel especially familiar—a reminder that sometimes the path forward only becomes visible once everything familiar has been stripped away. Resources Jeffery Saddoris https://www.jefferysaddoris.com Altadena Photographers https://www.altadenaphotographers.org/ Workshops & Upcoming Education with Ibarionex Perello X-Pedition Hanoi A destination workshop centered on street photography, culture, and daily life in Hanoi, Vietnam. https://www.f8photographicworkshops.com/x-pedition-hanoi Support Ibarionex & The Candid Frame GoFundMe https://www.gofundme.com/f/perello-familys-journey-to-re-establish-our-life eBook Purchases https://www.ibarionex.net/ebooks Websites The Candid Frame PayPal Contribution Link https://www.ibarionex.net/support Sponsors Charcoal Book Club https://charcoalbookclub.com Frames Magazine https://readframes.com Education Resources Momenta Photographic Workshops https://momentaworkshops.com/workshops/ Candid Frame Resources The Candid Frame Newsletter & Substack Blog http://ibarionex.substack.com/welcome Support the work at The Candid Frame by contributing via PayPal: https://www.ibarionex.net/support You can follow Ibarionex on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/ibarionex/?hl=en and Twitter https://twitter.com/Ibarionex?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Transcript

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0:00.0	Last year, I sat down with Jeffrey Sodorz for a deeply personal conversation about the impact of the eaten fire on me, my family,
0:23.0	and on the candid frame. It was a conversation born out of disruption, uncertainty,
0:28.7	and the kind of loss that changes how you think about home, work, and what comes next.
0:34.7	This episode is a follow-up to that conversation. As you'll hear, my family and I
0:40.0	made the decision to temporarily relocate to Bordeaux-France. And in this episode, I talk about why
0:46.0	we made that choice, what it's meant to leave behind the familiar and what it's like to begin
0:50.8	again in a new country. It's not a story about reinvention so much as it is about
0:57.3	adjustment, learning how to settle into a different rhythm of life while carrying with you the weight
1:04.2	of what came before. As I'm recording this, we've finally settled into what feels like a more
1:10.8	long-term stay. I'm slowly putting, we've finally settled into what feels like a more long-term stay.
1:12.6	I'm slowly putting together a small studio here in Bordeaux, one that will allow me to begin recording new episodes more consistently.
1:20.6	But one that has given me a renewed appreciation for a routine, for creative space, and for the simple act of being able to sit down
1:29.8	in front of a microphone again. I'm looking forward to returning to a more regular
1:35.5	production schedule in the weeks ahead, and if you haven't already, I hope you will follow
1:39.9	me in Substack. That's where I'm sharing not only updates about the podcast, but reflections on this
1:46.2	transition and what it's been like to build a life abroad. This is Ibarianx, and this is
1:53.9	The Candid Friend. This week's episode
2:10.5	Jeffrey
2:11.2	Um
2:13.2	All right
2:14.8	Jeffrey
2:15.2	Yeah
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