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The real test of longevity for any professional photographer is not just a financial one.

Many photographers meet that benchmark and succeed in earning a living from photography.

However, there are some photographers whose job is just that a job.

They earn a good living, but have lost the spark and passion that inspired them to pick up a camera in the first place.

The photographers who succeed, both financially and creatively,

are people who don't lose sight of why they were driven to make photographs.

It has to be more than just making money.

Rob Hammer is inspired by his curiosity about people, communities, and culture.

He uses the camera to provide entry into worlds he would otherwise not have access to.

They have led to projects on basketball, barbershops, cowboys, duck hunting, and so much more.

He often pursues the open road to renew and nurture both his photography and his

insatiable desire to discover something new.

This is IbarianX and welcome back to the Candid Frame.

Thank you. you're next and welcome back to the candid frame all right it's good to see you rob you too man i feel like this has been uh quite the journey yeah yeah yeah get this done

technical issues on both sides but yeah i'm glad to to make it happen and hopefully we won't have any

problems so yeah same here well thanks again for for having me and taking the time again yeah

yeah you know sometimes when when there's a some sort of snafu and i have to do an interview again

and ends up being sort of a a good thing um sometimes the second one feels

better than the first one did probably because we already had an hour underneath our belt so

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