This week I re-watched an old video of the photographer Gary Winnegrant.

It's a recording made at Rice University in 1977 when Gary spoke to a group of photography students.

It's a rare video in which the photographer talks about his images and his process seemingly reluctantly, but it's not so much that he didn't

want to answer the questions, but that students were expecting him to define his largely

intuitive process in rigidly defined absolutes.

And he just wasn't interested in doing that.

Nevertheless, he offers some gems of wisdom in his almost two-hour question-answer session.

One of them is something that he often said, which was that the photograph should be

more interesting than the subject being photographed. I had likely heard that before, but it didn't

click for me as much as it did this week. It clearly explained what I find so disappointing

about so many of the images that I frequently see on Flickr, Instagram, and elsewhere.

So when a couple of guests had to reschedule their interviews with me,

I decided to do an episode simply talking about this quote,

but I wanted another photographer to discuss it with me,

and thankfully, Sean Tucker was gracious enough to make himself available.

I interviewed Sean last year for the show, and many of you likely know him from his popular

YouTube channel.

I so appreciate his thoughtful exploration of what it means to be creative.

He isn't shy to admit his own weaknesses and

doubts and is open about sharing what he's learned about overcoming the common and familiar

obstacles faced by any photographer. If I can keep learning slowly on the side, now I need to focus

on something totally different, shoot more carelessly, go and put better things in front of my camera,

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