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This is Theology and Current Events, TCE, number 50, interview with a green beret.

Today I have with me, John Frankman.

I'm going to read you his CV here. John

Frankman was a captain in the army who served as Green Beret assigned to 7th Special Forces Group.

On July 1st, he voluntarily separated from active duty after eight years. July 1st of what year?

This year. This year, 2023. On July 1st, 2020, he voluntarily separated from active duty after eight years due to difficulties surrounding the COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

Before going on active duty, he spent four years in the Catholic Seminary studying for the Archdiocese of Washington, D.C. and the military Archdiocese before discerning that God had different plans from at the time.

He entered active duty as an infantry officer and completed the infantry basic course,

Basic Officer Leadership course, Airborne School, and Ranger School.

After serving as an infantry officer, he was selected to attend the Special Forces Qualification course, where he

also completed the SERE School, Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape, and completed the

military freefall course of all his military accomplishments. He considers refusing the immoral

and illegal COVID-VACs his proudest moment. He's currently completing his

MA in systematic theology. And even though he's a former captain, I'm going to call him captain,

he's a great hero of our country. Captain Franklin, thanks for joining us today.

Thanks for having me, Father. It's good to be here. Great to have you on the podcast. So one of the things I learned last night when you and I were having dinner with our

mutual friend Michael and Francis there is I had thought that special forces, special operators,

was a single umbrella under which we had Rangers and all these other different groups. Or

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