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Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

#TBT #1243 The story of Socialism in America (Throwback)

Best of the Left - Leftist Perspectives on Progressive Politics, News, Culture, Economics and Democracy

Jay Tomlinson

Politics, News Commentary, News

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Original Air Date 1-22-2019

Today we take a look at socialism in America from our often violent response to the concept in the wake of the Russian Revolution through the recent revival in interest, driven primarily by the younger generation today

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SHOW NOTES

Ch. 1: Red Dawn Americans and the Bolshevik Revolution - @BackStory - Air Date 11-9-17

One hundred years ago, Vladimir Lenin and his Bolshevik Party seized power in a revolution that would change the world. Today we explore how that distant revolution had an immediate impact in the United States.

Ch. 2: What the Russian Revolution Proved Possible - Empire Files - Air Date 12-18-17

To understand the context of this first socialist experiment, how it happened and what caused the many problems it faced, Abby Martin sits down with Brian Becker, a long-time socialist organizer.

Ch. 3: America’s Unofficial Religion - The War On An Idea Part 1 - Empire Files - Air Date 11-27-17

Everyone in the United States knows that “socialist” or “communist” is considered a bad word. How did things get that way? Abby Martin explores the history of anti-communism in America and the heavy repression of an idea that became an unofficial religion

Ch. 4: "Socialism" in the Air - On the Media - Air Date 7-27-18

The word "socialism" has been trending, appearing on op-ed pages, FOX News, ABC's The View and beyond. In this word watch, Bob speaks with another self-described socialist, Current Affairs editor-in-chief Nathan Robinson

Ch. 5: Americans are ready for socialism - @ThisIsHellRadio - Air Date 3-13-18

Columnist Elizabeth Bruenig looks beyond the failures of liberalism, to the possibilities of socialism. Elizabeth wrote the op-ed “It’s time to give socialism a try” at the Washington Post.

Ch. 6: Richard D. Wolff - What are Capitalism & Socialism? What differentiates them from each other? - acTVism Munich - Air Date 2-21-17

In this interview with Professor of Economics Emeritus (University of Massachusetts), Marxist economist and founder of Democracy at Work, Richard D. Wolff, we talk to him about Capitalism and Socialism.

Ch. 7: Why Are People Talking About Socialism? with Paul Jay - @TheRealNews - Air Date 1-2-19

Explaining why socialisms time may have come - the failures of capitalism

Ch. 8: Dr. Richard Wolff on Marxism 101: How Capitalism is Killing Itself - Empire Files - Air Date 11-28-17

Prof. Richard Wolff explains some tenets of how a modern socialists system could work

Ch. 9: America’s Unofficial Religion The War On An Idea Part 2 - Empire Files - Air Date 11-27-17

Capitalism can no longer compare itself with the dysfunctional Soviet Union but can only be compared to itself and it's failures


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0:00.0

We're trying something new. This is a throwback Thursday episode of the show where we dig deep into the archives and pull something that we think will be relevant and useful to hear again.

0:09.6

Or for the first time today.

0:11.9

These are in addition to our regular programming because we think they'll add real value to the show.

0:17.0

However, referring to them as throwback Thursday was a little controversial.

0:21.7

Amanda pointed out to me that throwback Thursday was largely a social media phenomenon driven by Facebook in the

0:28.0

mid-20 teens before they implemented Facebook memories.

0:31.7

And it's true, Google Trends shows a big spike in searches around then with throwback Thursday peaking in April 2014.

0:40.1

But then again, didn't we all? And besides, I say that if there's one thing to bring back after it's fallen out of style, it's throwbacks.

0:48.0

Welcome to this throwback Thursday edition of the award winning Best of Left podcast where we remember the past and choose to repeat it.

0:59.3

A version of this episode was originally published on January 22nd, 2019.

1:04.5

And we've chosen it because just this week we published an episode on the power of marketing from corporations and how that influential force helped shape culture and our built infrastructure.

1:16.4

Often for the worse. So looking back in the archives, this episode cut my eye because it encapsulates the greatest marketing topic of the 20th century.

1:26.2

The Cold War propaganda that hardened the ideological divide between Soviet style communism and American style capitalism, making it nearly impossible for anyone to see through to the nuances on the other side.

1:39.3

But with generational shift, that culture propaganda is thawing and this episode explains why.

1:46.2

If we step back from the moment and you know with the advantage of hindsight, we can see that for much of the 20th century, the Soviet Union was United States's ideological foil.

2:08.8

Do you think that's something that we can find in 10 days that took the world itself does reads work for shadow that what does it tell us about the kind of relationship that will emerge between the United States and the Soviet Union.

2:26.4

I think that he like Lenin in some ways in 1917 believe that there could be a good relationship between the two.

2:34.2

He and Lenin talk about this. It's not reflected so much in his book, but they talk about how the United States and the Soviet Union at that time don't really have direct areas of conflict in the world like trade and other sorts of things.

2:48.5

And so there's no reason why they can't be friendly, even though they appear to be ideologically at odds.

2:54.0

But you have to remember at the time that being a socialist or a communist in the United States up until about this moment was not seen as to be a negative thing necessarily.

3:04.1

Eugene V. Debs, who is a quite famous candidate for president.

3:07.6

And we might add a socialist candidate for president.

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