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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

TBD | You’ve Been Deepfaked

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

What do you do when your likeness has been turned into A.I.-generated pornography?—it’s a problem people are already facing. But legislation moving through Congress may cause more problems than it would solve. Guests: Joanne Chew, actress and visual artist based in LA. Samantha Cole, cofounder of 404 media and author of “How Sex Changed the Internet and How the Internet Changed Sex.” Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:27.2

your credit. Terms and conditions apply. Just a quick heads up before we get started. Today's show is

0:34.0

about non-consensual pornography. We use several graphic descriptions and words. Please

0:39.0

take care when listening. When did you first realize that your image was being deep faked?

0:50.4

It was in early June of last year. It was just one evening. I was bored online at night. And, you know,

0:57.8

sometimes, like, everybody Googles their name out of curiosity just to see what would come up.

1:02.6

Joanne Chu is an actress and visual artist based in LA. And the first couple listings were my website,

1:09.2

my IMDB page. And then I scroll down and I said, what is this?

1:17.5

What Joanne saw were deep faked pornographic videos and images of herself.

1:22.8

More than 400 pieces of content.

1:26.0

It was Joanne Chu, Petit Asian Cunt stretched out or impregnated by five black men or

1:33.5

or Joanne Chu's stupid Chinese whore, that type of thing.

1:38.3

But none of it was actually her.

1:41.0

She'd been deep faked.

1:42.9

Joanne was stunned.

1:51.1

I think the only way that I could process it was to kind of separate myself from it and then just observe it from above. But at the same time, I was also feeling so much rage and it's just,

1:55.6

how can somebody do this and just post like all over the internet? I was just, I mean, I still can't believe it.

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