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TBD | When America Can’t Pay the Rent

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

Daily News, News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

For the last four months, federal and state eviction moratoria have kept Americans in their apartments, even if they couldn’t pay rent. Now, with financial relief in question, and moratoria set to expire, the first of the month might look very different for millions of Americans. Guests: Emily, a resident of Chicago’s Northwest Side Mark Durakovic, principal at Kass Management Peter Hepburn, analyst at Princeton’s Eviction Lab Host Henry Grabar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Last week, I got an email from Jimmy Thomas. He's a counselor at a Chicago community organization

0:10.2

called the Northwest Side Housing Center. Jimmy helps people who are struggling to make

0:14.8

rent. He wanted to give me a sense of why he's so worried about a coming housing crisis

0:19.7

that, so far at least, has been largely invisible. And so attached to his email was a spreadsheet.

0:26.1

Of all the people he's been talking to about the rent. Jimmy left off the names,

0:31.0

but he kept the details. The spreadsheet has 48 rows. 48 families worried about their housing.

0:38.4

And then there are the columns. A column for citizenship status, a column labeled hardship,

0:43.9

mostly lost jobs, a column for how much each person's rent is per month, and how much they owe.

0:50.9

There was also a column for landlord reaction with little cells filled with things like

0:55.5

landlord is understanding or landlord is not understanding or landlord says she needs to pay

1:02.0

or leave. I picked a few numbers from the 48 and asked Jimmy if he'd put me in touch. He reached out

1:08.5

and the first person who got back to him was number 24.

1:16.0

This is number 24 on that Excel sheet. Well, my name is Emily Sanchez.

1:21.3

And I'm 23 years old and I'm a single mom of two little kids.

1:26.8

18 month old and a three month old. Emily has bright eyes, glasses, and a ponytail.

1:32.6

She's got a big tattoo of Jesus on the cross on her leg from high school. She's lived in Chicago

1:38.2

since she was three years old and has no memory of Mexico where she was born. She's in this country

1:45.0

illegally. While we spoke, her hands kept fidgeting in her lap like she was washing them.

1:49.6

I've been living here for three years already. She lives on the second floor of a two flat on a

1:54.6

pretty street on Chicago's northwest side. When she moved into this apartment three years ago,

1:59.6

she bought patio furniture to have summer barbecue. And that's where we were sitting.

2:04.5

Emily's younger brother, an 18 year old with autism and diabetes, was watching after the kids.

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