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TBD | What Landlords Have on You

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2020

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Over the last decade, born from the chaos of the 2008 financial crisis, automated tenant screening has grown into a billion-dollar industry. Now, nine out of 10 landlords rely on automated tenant-screening reports, scraped from eviction history, criminal background records, and terror watchlists, to decide if they can trust potential renters. The problem? Often, the reports contain major errors, mistaken identities, and criminal records that are supposed to be expunged. Can these reports really be trusted? Guest: Lauren Kirchner, investigative reporter at The Markup Original reporting with Matthew Goldstein, reporter at The New York Times  Host Celeste Headlee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello.

0:01.0

Hi, Lauren.

0:02.0

Hi.

0:03.0

Hi, it's Celeste.

0:04.0

Earlier this week, I called Lauren Kirschner.

0:06.0

She's an investigative reporter at the markup who loves to dig into official records and pages

0:17.5

of data.

0:18.5

A couple of years ago, she took a close look at the algorithm that produces risk assessments

0:23.8

in courtrooms.

0:25.0

These risk assessments are used to help judges decide whether to grant bail or not.

0:30.0

They're based on automated background checks, and they produce a score that predicts how

0:34.7

likely it is that an individual will commit a crime in the future.

0:38.5

We actually did a show on this earlier this year.

0:41.5

Lauren found that the risk assessment scores, which are seen as objective, are actually

0:46.5

biased against black individuals.

0:49.4

This year, she discovered that the same technology is being used in a wholly different situation.

0:55.6

We got a tip from an attorney who had heard about a risk score given to tenants that were

1:05.6

being used not only in the private market for landlords, but also in public housing authorities.

1:12.3

And so I got intrigued to learn about these tenant screening reports.

1:17.5

I wanted to learn where they were being used and which companies were most common.

1:24.4

Two simple questions that turned out to be very difficult to answer, partly because there

1:29.6

are so many companies doing background checks, and partly because every company seems to

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