On Tuesday night, Tatech Nateta realized the election was breaking for Trump, when Georgia and North Carolina began reporting results.

It sort of began to coalesce that he could win those two states, which were likely necessary for the Harris campaign,

if she had lost any one of the three blue wall states.

Tatish is the director of the UMass poll and a political science professor at UMass Amherst.

After looking at those early numbers, he began listening to what Democratic surrogates were saying on TV.

To an expert like Tatish, it was a clear message.

You saw a number of Democratic strategists on MSNBC or CNN talking about their, you know, confidence that they could still win the election,

and that it's going to come down to these three Midwestern states.

Robert Costa's reporting.

The General Amali Dillon has now sent out a memo.

She's the campaign manager for the Vice President Harris

and says they still believe that the blue wall is the ultimate way to win.

Once I started hearing that, I thought this might be done.

At the end of the day, Trump didn't just win. He took most of the swing states. He won the

popular vote. It wasn't really that close. That's something that might have surprised Americans looking at national opinion polling before election day.

You look at opinion polls going into Tuesday, showed them more or less tied.

I think you guys maybe had her up two points toward the end of October.

Were all those polls wrong?

I don't know if they were wrong.

I think one of the things that pollsters and polls attempted to communicate is that this is going to be an extremely close election.

And it's going to come down to two factors.

First, which candidate is going to be able to turn out their voters?

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