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dot com and secure your seats today shirat do you spend a lot of time thinking about masculine energy?

When I do, it's usually because it's caused some kind of disruption in my life or given me problems for that day.

And so I can't say that I have had any positive reflections on masculine energy recently.

Shira is Shira Frankel, a New York Times reporter. And I was asking her that question because of this guy.

All these forms of energy are good. And I think having a culture that like celebrates the aggression a bit more has its own merits that are really positive.

And that's, that has been, that has been kind of a positive experience for me.

That's Mark Zuckerberg, browing out with Joe Rogan last week, saying corporate culture has been

neutered and needs more masculine energy.

I mean, that was one of many revelations we had this week about what Mark Zuckerberg

thinks about the world.

And for me, as someone who's looked at Facebook for years now and looked at what they

represent as a company. It's just interesting

that as his company has steadily really shed female employees and female executives,

for him to say we need more masculine energy as kind of, you know, it's an interesting choice.

Shira co-wrote a book about Facebook with her fellow Times reporter Cecilia Kong and says,

this Zuck, the one we saw on Rogan, that is the real suck.

He spoke on that show the way people describe him speaking in backyard barbecues and dinner

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