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I understand that I am asking Laura Riley something brutal

when I ask her to describe her daughter Sophie.

Sophie was our only child because when you when you get it right you don't necessarily want to do it over

again. Very people oriented. No separation anxiety when she went to Um, you know, I think a lot of only children

tend to be good around adults, but she had kind of a preternatural ability with people of all

kinds. Laura is a longtime journalist and food critic. And Sophie traveled with her parents all over

the world. We lived abroad when, was in ninth grade and a couple summers before that, and she got the

travel bug pretty hard and did a lot of solo travel.

This past summer, she climbed Mount Kilimanjaro with a buddy of hers. And she did a month of

yoga intensive training in Thailand and then came back. And she and her best friend, um, their

intention was to climb to, uh, visit all of the national parks in the U.S. And she is fairly far along on that goal.

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