If you're American, you probably think of free speech as the default.

Just the way things are.

And I don't know where it enters.

The sister, I don't know if it's in the water or if it's in the kindergarten curriculum.

Evelyn Duwack is not American.

But it's certainly something that I have encountered for years.

It's just this like first amendment fundamentalism.

She's an Australian who lives in Massachusetts.

And she's one of the most dynamic and nuanced thinkers about online speech.

She lectures at Harvard Law School.

You came here to study kind of first amendment law to look at this stuff.

As an outsider, what was your impression of the US fundamental adherence to free speech?

I feel a little bit like Gaslit as a foreigner when you come to America as I did four years

ago to study comparative constitutional law and free speech.

One of the most striking things about American free speech doctrine is this like there's

this example of there were Nazis that wanted to march in Skokie.

I know jumping straight to Nazis is kind of leaping into the free speech depot.

Evelyn's describing one of the most famous first amendment cases one that really tests

American values.

And the story goes like this.

In 1978, a group of neo-Nazis wanted to march in the Chicago suburb of Skokie, Illinois.

Largely because a lot of Holocaust survivors lived there.

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