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This past summer, right around the time there were protests in the streets after George Floyd's death,

and the country was talking fervently about race.

Natasha Tiku was calling up computer science professors at historically black colleges and universities.

Howard, Morehouse, Spellman, the schools that everybody knows were getting a lot of attention from tech companies.

Natasha is a reporter at the Washington Post, and she covers Big Tech.

She's the kind of deeply sourced journalist who can tell you about the culture inside a company.

One company she's covered a lot is Google.

And for years, Google has been saying it's working on increasing its diversity,

and that's meant a bunch of outreach programs to those historically black colleges and universities.

Yeah, it was really intriguing. I mean, a lot of the professors did give Google credit for being early in their engagement efforts

compared to other institutions, but they also told her something else about their students,

and their experiences at tech companies, despite all that outreach.

Very often, they were already finding themselves still maybe the only black person on their team,

maybe facing a hiring committee where there were no other black people.

When they went to Silicon Valley for internships or job interviews, things were tough.

I heard about one female student who raised issues about bias from one of the people she was working with during her internship,

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