Hi, everybody. I'm Brittany Lewis, a breaking news reporter here at Forbes.

Joining me now is my colleague, Justin Conklin, the deputy director of editorial operations.

Justin, thank you so much for joining me.

Thanks for having me.

It is a huge day. If you are a Swifty, Taylor Swift's latest album just dropped the life of a showgirl.

And you've lifted before for Forbes the curtain on the pop mogul.

She's a billionaire who continues to be part of the zeitgeist.

And even if you were on social media last night, you saw people waiting in anticipation

for midnight for this album to drop.

People were live streaming their reactions as they were listening to this.

People are breaking them down.

People have been figuring out what Easter eggs are where for the past months.

And really for the past years, ever since Taylor Swift became an artist.

I mean, why do you think and how is she able to stay so relevant, even when she's had a career that has spanned now close to 20 years?

Well, I think a lot of things go into it, right? So she's reinvented herself so many times.

I think part of that was stemmed in the fear of being replaced by the music industry,

so she had to keep being something new with each new album release.

At the same time, she's come across as relatable,

especially across her social media presence. And she's given people music that's granted the

permission to feel their emotions and kind of, in the words of Dr. Ramsey from Penn State Berks,

who taught a course on Taylor Swift, given people the vocabulary to know what they were feeling. She's also extremely

relatable outside of her music. And I know that's hard to imagine with a billionaire celebrity,

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