This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different approach to the news. We're so glad you're joining us today. We have a great episode for you, one of our very favorite guests, Susan Page,

Washington, D.C. Bureau Chief for USA Today, an author is back to talk about her latest book comes out today the rule

breaker the life and times of Barbara Walters I was thinking about this Beth I feel like

Susan Page should get some sort of special jacket like when you've hosted

S&L the most because I think she might be our most frequent guest.

That could be she's got to be up there with like Carrie Boyd Anderson right on

yeah our foreign policy expert.

Yes, we should have jackets made, little robes.

I think that's a good idea.

I think we should make those.

We're also going to talk about the new funding package that just passed through the House of

Representatives and of course outside of politics

one Miss Taylor Allison Swift has a new album. It's called The Tortured Poets Department.

Maybe you heard something about it.

It's quite long.

It's long.

It's actually, it's a anthology.

It's two albums, 31 songs.

So we're gonna talk about all those things today.

And before we do, we wanna remind you that this week on our premium channels, we're returning to something long material there as well.

Alexis de Tocqueville's classic democracy in America.

We are doing a slow read along of it this year because even from a view

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