Hey everybody, this is Richard Deich and welcome to the sports media podcast. My producer is Patrick Antonetti.

Two guests this week, two excellent guests. First up Taylor Rooks. She is a host and reporter for Bleacher Report and Turner Sports. You've probably seen Taylor's work

when it comes to interviewing. She's interviewed some of the biggest names, certainly, in the NBA,

some of the entertainment space as well. Her probably her biggest current project is Taylor,

Rooks, and the Vodcast, but if you were going to look at it, sort of how it's spelled Taylor Rooks X.

So, you know, think about like Taylor Rooks X and whoever her guest is.

This season's included Demarder Rosen, D.K. Metcalf and Micah, and Micah Parsons.

And we had a great conversation. It's always

great to catch up with Taylor, just to sort of talk about how one approaches interviewing,

how she's sort of approached her career. She's still under 30. And it's had just a tremendous

amount of success. And, you know, sort of what makes a good interview we got into her experiences

in the bubble which showed a great piece for GQ on that and just sort of how that

changed her and and and her sort of thoughts and reflections on that talked a little about little bit about Pam Oliver, too, who both of

us have immense respect for and just her impact on the business. So great conversation with

Taylor Rooks. She is followed by Alex Sherman, who covers technology, media, and telecommunications

for CNBC. And we discussed his piece on Bob Chappek

and Bob Iger, the rift between the two Disney chiefs, great reporting by Alex. And then just sort of

some ESPN specific content, what Alex thinks the near term future of ESPN is, possibility of

spinning off ESPN from Disney, future of ESPN and sports

betting, how Bob Chapec's leadership has impacted ESPN. And then finally, ESPN and its relationship

with larger Disney in terms of that Florida House bill and Bob Chapeic having, I think, significant issues right now

with his employees, including his employees who support LGBTQ. And so really interesting stuff

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