Hey, guys, you know, it seems like in this business, when you make one contact that ends up

meeting you in other contact and it makes another contact.

And you know, we've, we've got some good friends of the show.

Bob Hicks has been on a couple of times.

And Bob actually introduced me to Austin Lawrence, who we have on the show today, Austin's

an author.

He was also in their Phantom Farm documentary, Austin.

Thanks for coming on, buddy.

Thanks for having me.

It's a real big honor.

Like you said, you know, I've known Bob most of my life.

And it's pretty crazy.

Like you said, how you make one contact and then all of a sudden, you know, you just know

so many wonderful people within this whole field.

Yeah, it's, it's a pretty good field.

You see a lot of negative stuff on Facebook, but that's normally the, the higher ups,

bickering with each other, the more famous people.

But everybody else that's in the lower tiers, I would say tend to get along and want to

support each other.

Yeah, that, you know, when I first started, I don't know, over a decade ago, there really

wasn't this lower tier because social media wasn't really there.

So all you got back then was really the negativity and the bickering and stuff was like,

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