Taylor Frankie Paul Is A ‘Bachelorette’ Chaos Pick

Love to See It with Emma and Claire

Claire Fallon, Emma Gray

Tv & Film

4.4 • 5.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

This week, Bachelor Nation was rocked by an unprecedented announcement: the next Bachelor would actually be a Bachelorette, and that Bachelorette would be… “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” star Taylor Frankie Paul. The MomTok founding mother and gossip magnet is already massively famous, and comes with an unusual reputation and background for a “Bachelorette” leading lady, so naturally we – and everyone we know – are still processing! In this episode, we dive into who Taylor Frankie Paul is as a cultural figure, her history of “soft swinging” and domestic violence arrest, what this choice says about our cultural/political moment, and what we can expect from her upcoming season. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm
0:02.0	Thanks, I don't need help
0:07.0	Just watch me love myself
0:11.0	That's all I want, got what I want,
0:15.0	That's all I want, I'm not sorry
0:20.0	I'm Claire Fallon.
0:21.6	And I'm Emma Gray.
0:23.6	And this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed podcast about the romance we see on screen,
0:28.6	from reality dating shows like The Bachelor to classic rom-coms and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.
0:44.0	We can't live with these stories and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy detail and unpack all the weird messages on-screen romance sends us about love, sex, and dating.
0:52.1	Stop, drop, roll.
0:54.0	Love it, roll.
0:55.8	Stop, drop, roll.
0:56.9	Fire.
0:58.4	Can you keep up?
1:00.6	I like love it.
1:05.0	Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about our new Bachelorette.
1:08.7	A Mormon wife with a secret life is about to give out roses.
1:14.0	Yes, we are here to discuss this week's big announcement that Taylor Frankie Paul, star of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, will be the next bachelorette.
1:22.5	Wild, wild, earth-shattering news, truly, at least in our world. And there have understandably been
1:29.6	some really mixed responses to this announcement, and specifically, you know, The Bachelor
1:35.0	franchise's big wild swing. And today we are going to try to get into all of it as
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