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This episode discusses domestic abuse as well as suicide.

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This is Taylor Armstrong, in her own words.

Welcome. Taylor, thank you for continuing to show your story. So now it happens. You've been outed and you talk to your friend. We're going to have to tell them. So what happens then?

So we start going to couples counseling with Dr. Sophie at Dr. Sophie's urging. And I let Dr. Sophie

urge Russell into it. And so we started going and slowly Dr. Sophie was, he's so amazing, but he would say,

okay, you know, there's talk around town that there's some things going on.

And, you know, Russell, let's talk about this. And is there any reality to that? And so

he did it in such a slow way that it didn't seem like he was going to get ambushed on the show.

It was just, you know, there's people talking around town. And I don't know, are these things

true? And he created a safety plan for us where he, so with our landline phones, but

like if you two start to get in an argument, then you need to go into two separate rooms in

the house and both get on the phone with me and we'll talk through it. I can't believe Brussels

was even open to talking to this person, much less like coming up with any kind of strategy.

I mean, it's that he would even have this self-awareness to be open to, like, you know, this has to change.

I'm not sure he was open to this has to change, but he was definitely, I think that Dr. Sophie's saying things like, you know, there's

people that are talking.

So he's more worried about this, right getting discovered.

The perception of him before we finally told him, you know, it's coming out on the show.

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