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Outside/In

Taxonomy's 200-Year Mistake

Outside/In

NHPR

Science, Renewable Energy, Energy, Documentary, Outdoor Recreation, Environment, Climate, Public Radio, Wildlife, Nature, Natural World, Ecology, Society & Culture, Human Interest Stories, Wildlife Management, Biology, Outdoors, Wilderness, Natural Sciences

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

This fungi scientist wants to change how we think about mushrooms.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, this is Outside In, a show where curiosity and the natural world collide.

0:05.7

I'm Nate Hedgy.

0:07.7

A few months ago, one of our producers, Marina Hanke, found herself on a field trip to the New York

0:13.0

State Museum in Albany.

0:14.6

Testing, testing, testing, one, two, testing, testing.

0:17.8

It's a building of sharp edges and gray concrete gives very strong Jetson's vibes.

0:23.9

But what Marina was there to see is about as far from concrete as you're going to get.

0:29.4

I mean, I feel like the best way to describe it is like a cabinet of curiosities of mushrooms right here.

0:34.3

I mean, these are the most mushrooms I've maybe seen in my life right now.

0:44.0

Yeah. of mushrooms right here. I mean, these are the most mushrooms I've maybe seen in my life right now. Mushrooms.

0:45.2

This is called fistio-line, a hepatica, which the common name is the beef steak mushroom.

0:50.0

It gets that name because when you see it in the forest, it really does look like this piece of meat.

0:55.2

And when you slice it and even exudes like a reddish liquid.

0:59.2

No.

0:59.6

And it's edible and it tastes incredible.

1:02.3

And so you can eat it.

1:02.9

You can eat it.

1:04.6

This is Patty Kachian, New York State Museum's curator of mycology.

1:09.0

That's the study of fungi.

1:12.8

She and Marina were standing in front of a big glass cabinet full of wax sculptures, like a Madame Tussaud's, but for mushrooms.

1:18.7

I mean, can you like describe, like, what is the texture of that cap? Yeah, so we would just,

1:23.3

in mycological terms, we would say that's like cerebriform. What is that?

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